liujam 发表于 2005-9-18 01:53

[贴图]今天暴力分解了我的532nm的绿光

<P>功率是50mw,是模组,今天被我拆开了,如图:</P>模组分一块电源板和激光发射模组,电源接220V市电,输入1.85V给模组。<br><br><img src="attachments/dvbbs/2005-9/20059171748694230.jpg" border="0" onload="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onmouseover="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.style.cursor=\'hand\'; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onclick="if(!this.resized) {return true;} else {window.open(\'attachments/dvbbs/2005-9/20059171748694230.jpg\');}" onmousewheel="return imgzoom(this);" alt="" /><br><img src="attachments/dvbbs/2005-9/20059171757332181.jpg" border="0" onload="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onmouseover="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.style.cursor=\'hand\'; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onclick="if(!this.resized) {return true;} else {window.open(\'attachments/dvbbs/2005-9/20059171757332181.jpg\');}" onmousewheel="return imgzoom(this);" alt="" /><br><br>拆开模组,里面是纯铜组件,下方是808nm的LD底座,LD就焊接在里面,发现非常微弱的红光,千万别以为功率很小,手指放上去,一秒钟烧出一个白点。。。套上镜头后(Nd:YVO4+KTP晶体)立刻发出耀眼的绿光。。。<br><br><img src="attachments/dvbbs/2005-9/200591717481536107.jpg" border="0" onload="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onmouseover="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.style.cursor=\'hand\'; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onclick="if(!this.resized) {return true;} else {window.open(\'attachments/dvbbs/2005-9/200591717481536107.jpg\');}" onmousewheel="return imgzoom(this);" alt="" /><br><br>上方是变频晶体,这个部分很难拆(不知道用的是什么固体胶水,粘得非常死),我用老虎钳和钢锯配合终于给撕开,如图3<br><br>晶体非常小,大概只有一平方毫米,超频的话不知道会不会炸裂....<br><img src="attachments/dvbbs/2005-9/200591717482194330.jpg" border="0" onload="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onmouseover="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.style.cursor=\'hand\'; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onclick="if(!this.resized) {return true;} else {window.open(\'attachments/dvbbs/2005-9/200591717482194330.jpg\');}" onmousewheel="return imgzoom(this);" alt="" /><br>808nm的功率不知道是多少,放上一个黑色手电拉绳能迅速冒烟。<br><br><img src="attachments/dvbbs/2005-9/200591717483054501.jpg" border="0" onload="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onmouseover="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.style.cursor=\'hand\'; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onclick="if(!this.resized) {return true;} else {window.open(\'attachments/dvbbs/2005-9/200591717483054501.jpg\');}" onmousewheel="return imgzoom(this);" alt="" /><br><img src="attachments/dvbbs/2005-9/200591717483861948.jpg" border="0" onload="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onmouseover="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.style.cursor=\'hand\'; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onclick="if(!this.resized) {return true;} else {window.open(\'attachments/dvbbs/2005-9/200591717483861948.jpg\');}" onmousewheel="return imgzoom(this);" alt="" /><br><img src="attachments/dvbbs/2005-9/200591717554040085.jpg" border="0" onload="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onmouseover="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.style.cursor=\'hand\'; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onclick="if(!this.resized) {return true;} else {window.open(\'attachments/dvbbs/2005-9/200591717554040085.jpg\');}" onmousewheel="return imgzoom(this);" alt="" /><br><br>修好几乎没有可能性了,发烧果然烧钱,400多块就这样没了
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liujam 发表于 2005-9-18 02:16

<img src="attachments/dvbbs/2005-9/200591718144293931.jpg" border="0" onload="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onmouseover="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.style.cursor=\'hand\'; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onclick="if(!this.resized) {return true;} else {window.open(\'attachments/dvbbs/2005-9/200591718144293931.jpg\');}" onmousewheel="return imgzoom(this);" alt="" /><BR><img src="attachments/dvbbs/2005-9/200591718145359267.jpg" border="0" onload="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onmouseover="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.style.cursor=\'hand\'; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onclick="if(!this.resized) {return true;} else {window.open(\'attachments/dvbbs/2005-9/200591718145359267.jpg\');}" onmousewheel="return imgzoom(this);" alt="" /><BR><BR>想请问一下这里的高手,我里的镜头部分(Nd:YVO4+KTP),能不能用水洗啊,我拆它的时候弄脏了,想拿到水龙头冲一下....

冰冻小章鱼 发表于 2005-9-18 03:07

我还在为150mw绿激光器筹钱呢…………

太阳神 发表于 2005-9-18 23:58

<P>楼主PM你了.<br></P>
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liujam 发表于 2005-9-19 01:31

今天把晶体盖(Nd:YVO4+KTP)和808nm的LD拿去水洗了,没什么事情....<br><br>不过好了没几分钟,倒霉的事情来了,我将一个黑色手电拉绳非常近距离的放到出光口(距离3毫米左右),拉绳迅速冒烟,等我将接绳取下的时候,发现光柱很弱,光斑也有些扩散,50mW完全变成了10mW左右。<br><br>看样子是由于近距离烧烤东西导致LD管无法散热,导致808nm的LD管迅速老化!!<br>(我这个属于前者808nm的LD管老化)<br><br><FONT color=#ff0000 size=5><STRONG>所以大家以后在玩绿光(特别是功率大于10mW的)的时候,千万不要将物体放到出激光出瞳口上,否则将会导致热量无法散发,迅速导致LD管或晶体老化及损坏!!!</STRONG></FONT>
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liujam 发表于 2005-9-19 01:33

今天痛苦了一天~~~不过我会继续努力,下一个目标120mW绿光....

冰冻小章鱼 发表于 2005-9-19 03:18

<DIV class=quote><B>以下是引用<I>liujam</I>在2005-9-18 17:31:44的发言:</B><BR>今天把晶体盖(Nd:YVO4+KTP)和808nm的LD拿去水洗了,没什么事情....<BR><BR>不过好了没几分钟,倒霉的事情来了,我将一个黑色手电拉绳非常近距离的放到出光口(距离3毫米左右),拉绳迅速冒烟,等我将接绳取下的时候,发现光柱很弱,光斑也有些扩散,50mW完全变成了10mW左右。<BR><BR>看样子是由于近距离烧烤东西导致LD管无法散热,导致808nm的LD管迅速老化!!<BR>(我这个属于前者808nm的LD管老化)<BR><BR><FONT color=#ff0000 size=5><STRONG>所以大家以后在玩绿光(特别是功率大于10mW的)的时候,千万不要将物体放到出激光出瞳口上,否则将会导致热量无法散发,迅速导致LD管或晶体老化及损坏!!!</STRONG></FONT><BR></DIV>
<P>
<P>有问题请教下:</P>
<P>便携式,如笔式激光,出口处应该是透镜,不会离LD很近吧?那样也会危险吗?</P>
<P>还有在另一贴看到兄弟说1cm以为照射手,一点感觉都没了,这是什么原因呢?激光不是一束发射出去的嘛?</P>
<P>还有个问题哈,你现在的这个已经彻底废了吗?还能有10mw左右功率?怎么处理呀?当废品卖给我?(偶还没接触过绿Laser呢,呵呵)</P>

屎忽鬼 发表于 2005-9-19 03:46

<P><FONT size=5>就是没细看到里面的LD和晶体组件.</FONT></P>

屎忽鬼 发表于 2005-9-19 03:49

<FONT size=5>400米老大不用那么心疼拉,我那个100mw电筒接手机电板烧掉LD之后寄回厂家换一个也400呢?</FONT>

liujam 发表于 2005-9-19 19:23

<DIV class=quote><B>以下是引用<I>屎忽鬼</I>在2005-9-18 19:46:19的发言:</B><br>
<P><FONT size=5>就是没细看到里面的LD和晶体组件.</FONT></P><br></DIV><br><FONT color=#ff0000 size=4><STRONG>808nm的LD部分:<br></STRONG></FONT>首先这个808nm的LD并非三个脚的那种三级管,而是一个小贴片 <br>
<P>LD就焊接在底座上,外壳是正级,负级通过红色的导线连接LD的负级引脚,LD的引脚接往LD时,又分为三个非常细小引脚接往LD,那个很小的长方型的黄色贴片元件就是808nm的LD了,接电后,三束距离非常近的红色平行光束从贴片LD的上方发射出来(微弱的红光)。</P>因为要散热,这个贴片式LD焊在一个白色的铝片上,白色铝片又被紧密的嵌在一个纯铜的正方体中,然后这个正方体被螺丝固定在铝合金散热底座上。。<br><br><img src="attachments/dvbbs/2005-9/200591911172565991.jpg" border="0" onload="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onmouseover="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.style.cursor=\'hand\'; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onclick="if(!this.resized) {return true;} else {window.open(\'attachments/dvbbs/2005-9/200591911172565991.jpg\');}" onmousewheel="return imgzoom(this);" alt="" /><br><img src="attachments/dvbbs/2005-9/200591911174264060.jpg" border="0" onload="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onmouseover="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.style.cursor=\'hand\'; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onclick="if(!this.resized) {return true;} else {window.open(\'attachments/dvbbs/2005-9/200591911174264060.jpg\');}" onmousewheel="return imgzoom(this);" alt="" /><br><br><FONT color=#ff0000 size=5><STRONG>Nd:YVO4+KTP变频晶体部分:<br></STRONG></FONT><br>很显然,这个肯定用的是胶合型一体化晶体(固计是进口货)<br><br>用来将红外光转为绿光的晶体被嵌在一个纯铜的盖中,通过两个小铜条被牢牢的固定在中央,这个纯铜的盖子盖在LD的上方,LD发出来的808nm的红外光通过铜盖中央的晶体转换为绿光射出。其实这个时候发射出来的光已经是平行光了,无需透镜聚焦,发射来的点状光斑1米处大概有2厘米左右,所以这个模组前方还是有一个透镜用来聚焦,以达到更小的光斑。<br><br><img src="attachments/dvbbs/2005-9/200591911192575633.jpg" border="0" onload="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onmouseover="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.style.cursor=\'hand\'; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onclick="if(!this.resized) {return true;} else {window.open(\'attachments/dvbbs/2005-9/200591911192575633.jpg\');}" onmousewheel="return imgzoom(this);" alt="" /><br><img src="attachments/dvbbs/2005-9/200591911193954372.jpg" border="0" onload="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onmouseover="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.style.cursor=\'hand\'; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onclick="if(!this.resized) {return true;} else {window.open(\'attachments/dvbbs/2005-9/200591911193954372.jpg\');}" onmousewheel="return imgzoom(this);" alt="" /><br><img src="attachments/dvbbs/2005-9/200591911195535088.jpg" border="0" onload="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onmouseover="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.style.cursor=\'hand\'; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onclick="if(!this.resized) {return true;} else {window.open(\'attachments/dvbbs/2005-9/200591911195535088.jpg\');}" onmousewheel="return imgzoom(this);" alt="" /><br><img src="attachments/dvbbs/2005-9/20059191120342949.jpg" border="0" onload="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onmouseover="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.style.cursor=\'hand\'; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onclick="if(!this.resized) {return true;} else {window.open(\'attachments/dvbbs/2005-9/20059191120342949.jpg\');}" onmousewheel="return imgzoom(this);" alt="" /><br><img src="attachments/dvbbs/2005-9/200591911201353446.jpg" border="0" onload="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onmouseover="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.style.cursor=\'hand\'; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onclick="if(!this.resized) {return true;} else {window.open(\'attachments/dvbbs/2005-9/200591911201353446.jpg\');}" onmousewheel="return imgzoom(this);" alt="" /><br><br><FONT color=#ff0000 size=4><STRONG>聚光部分:</STRONG></FONT><br><br>虽然通过晶体出来的绿光已经是点状,但是光斑比较大,还是需要聚焦。<br>这部分很简单,就是筒身的前端有一个透镜用来聚焦。<br><img src="attachments/dvbbs/2005-9/200591911222393479.jpg" border="0" onload="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onmouseover="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.style.cursor=\'hand\'; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onclick="if(!this.resized) {return true;} else {window.open(\'attachments/dvbbs/2005-9/200591911222393479.jpg\');}" onmousewheel="return imgzoom(this);" alt="" /><br><img src="attachments/dvbbs/2005-9/200591911223385633.jpg" border="0" onload="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onmouseover="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.style.cursor=\'hand\'; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onclick="if(!this.resized) {return true;} else {window.open(\'attachments/dvbbs/2005-9/200591911223385633.jpg\');}" onmousewheel="return imgzoom(this);" alt="" /><br><img src="attachments/dvbbs/2005-9/200591911224288395.jpg" border="0" onload="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onmouseover="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.style.cursor=\'hand\'; this.alt=\'Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out\';}" onclick="if(!this.resized) {return true;} else {window.open(\'attachments/dvbbs/2005-9/200591911224288395.jpg\');}" onmousewheel="return imgzoom(this);" alt="" /><br>
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liujam 发表于 2005-9-19 19:29

<DIV class=quote><B>以下是引用<I>冰冻小章鱼</I>在2005-9-18 19:18:26的发言:</B><br><br>
<P>
<P>有问题请教下:</P>
<P>便携式,如笔式激光,出口处应该是透镜,不会离LD很近吧?那样也会危险吗?</P>
<P>还有在另一贴看到兄弟说1cm以为照射手,一点感觉都没了,这是什么原因呢?激光不是一束发射出去的嘛?</P>
<P>还有个问题哈,你现在的这个已经彻底废了吗?还能有10mw左右功率?怎么处理呀?当废品卖给我?(偶还没接触过绿Laser呢,呵呵)</P></DIV>
<P><br><br>笔式的功率比较小,而且从LD到透镜有一段距离,所以将东西堵在出光口没什么问题,不过时间最好不要太长了,有短寿的可能。我这个老化的原因主要是我将透镜都取下了(透镜到LD的距离有5-8厘米左右),将物体直接放到LD上面烧,几乎只有3-5毫米的距离,所以LD很快就因为过热老化了。。<br><br>还有10mw左右的绿光输出,我还是留着自己研究好了,呵呵:)主要是想把电路搞出来,然后再购一套改成便携的。</P>
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lymex 发表于 2005-9-19 21:15

<P>慰问一下。不知道这个808功率是多大的?是否测量了通过这管子的实际电流?这种封装应该是C-type,可以找一个换上。</P>
<P>我以前的一个5mW被调成了40mW,非常好,但由于管角旋转松动,把那个细线(只有一根、不是三根)扯断了!</P>
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liujam 发表于 2005-9-19 21:26

808nm的管子估计是200mw左右的,经过晶体转换后出来的绿光45mw左右,KTP+Nd:YVO4晶体的转换效率可能是20%-25%左右,如果效率没这么高的话,那么808nm的管子很有可能是500mw的功率。<br><br>手头上没有万用表啊,这几天有空了去买一块...<br>
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电阻 发表于 2005-9-20 01:27

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激光照射手电绳的时候产生的烟雾,把808管芯给污染了,并不是什么热量散发不出来,这种情况LD就OVER了.一般组装激光器都是在非常洁净的地方,裸LD非常怕灰尘!!!!!!管芯污染以后就把808的两个腔的反射和半反射膜给烧坏了.

liujam 发表于 2005-9-20 01:43

<DIV class=quote><B>以下是引用<I>电阻</I>在2005-9-19 17:27:57的发言:</B><BR>激光照射手电绳的时候产生的烟雾,把808管芯给污染了,并不是什么热量散发不出来,这种情况LD就OVER了.一般组装激光器都是在非常洁净的地方,裸LD非常怕灰尘!!!!!!管芯污染以后就把808的两个腔的反射和半反射膜给烧坏了.</DIV>
<P>这个LD的确是裸的,不过我拿到水龙头去冲过了啊,没什么效果啊,本来出来的是三束平行光,射出来的红光打到纸上,是一个小长方型,现在都成一字型了...</P>

shaker 发表于 2005-9-21 20:02

什么?。。。。你。。。。还。。。。。冲洗。。。天哪。。。

shaker 发表于 2005-9-21 20:04

<P>有人用水龙头冲洗过电脑主板吗?效果一定很那个。。。。</P>

Executor 发表于 2005-9-22 01:50

<P>好像没看到红外截止镜片。我那个没截止片激光笔的光斑总隐隐带点红色,不知道兄弟有没有看到这种现象。</P>

liujam 发表于 2005-9-22 04:01

<DIV class=quote><B>以下是引用<I>shaker</I>在2005-9-21 12:04:25的发言:</B><BR>
<P>有人用水龙头冲洗过电脑主板吗?效果一定很那个。。。。</P></DIV>
<P>被你说中了,我的主板还真用水冲洗过,马上用风干,没事的~~除了硬盘,我啥都洗过。。。</P>

liujam 发表于 2005-9-22 04:03

<DIV class=quote><B>以下是引用<I>Executor</I>在2005-9-21 17:50:43的发言:</B><BR>
<P>好像没看到红外截止镜片。我那个没截止片激光笔的光斑总隐隐带点红色,不知道兄弟有没有看到这种现象。</P></DIV>
<br>有这种情况,取下聚焦镜片后,光斑的边缘区域带点红色~~
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